My Wall-to-Wall with Tristan Tzara
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: It is unfortunate that we cannot agree. :(
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: My Existenze exhibition was straight forward but I found it an interesting journey into my existence. By calling it worthless, you call my art and myself worthless! I do not agree with your words. My work may not be dada but it is significant. In fact, it is significant because it is not dada. It has purpose. It has life.
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: Hmm, there were photographs of your actual datebook? That seems too literal for me. Existenze is German for existence, isn't it? So the installation is about your existence in the world? I dislike how you made this installation so straight forward. You worthlessly threw yourself upon a table and let the audience feed upon your days like ravaging beasts!
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: In one of my exhibitions called Existenze 66-88, I displayed one of my stuffed Mickys. The exhibit was a self portrait. There were many installations consisting of photographs of the pages in my personal date book. My date book chronicled my daily life and art between 1966-1988.
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: What do you mean they become a part of your works?
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: I like goats. I have had multiple pet goats named Micky. One of them had a baby. I named him Wurtzy. They're my beloved pets. They also become a part of my work.
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: Yes, very nice. Why did you have it commissioned?
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: No, it was actually a commission by Wolfgang Binding. It is a bronze 120 x 124 x 42 cm sculpture. Beautiful, isn't it?
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: Wow, that is quite expansive. Did you also make that goat sculpture?
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: There is about 270 framed panels with 36 drawings in each!
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: I saw that you posted it on my newsfeed! I was wondering how you were going to display your piece. I see that you did do many variations of calculating time. How many pictures are there?
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: Did you see the installation of my work?
Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: True, it is almost dada but not.
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: I’m not quite sure what to make of this piece. It is like a personal experience veiled in a
mask of false logic. It is the abolition
and creation of man and Darboven logic. It
is interesting to say the least.Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: Yes, that is part of the piece but it isn’t my main goal. The core of my piece is the time put into it. Art is work. Time, with mental and physical energy put into the work, and the accumulation of personal and historical events behind it is my art.
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven: Ah, interesting.
So you’re saying that you are rejecting the set function of numbering?Hanne DarbovenTristan Tzara: Hello Tristan, thanks for the comment. The piece I recently posted with the framed numbers is part of my calendar project. I started this series in the 1960s. I wanted to investigate the time within a century. Using different formulas and ways of representation, I create my work with an almost endless stream of mental energy, and various figurative imagery. Although I use formulas, this piece has nothing to do with math. I investigate my formulas (which I build myself) almost to the point of saturation with knowledge – and then I do them. I only use numbers because it is a way of writing without describing. I would go so far as to say that I liberate the numbers from their quantifying functions and imbue them with a graphic function.
Tristan TzaraHanne Darboven:
Hello Hanne, I noticed you posted a picture of your
piece. It looks more like a mathematical
process than an artwork. However, I’m
not quite sure if there actually is some type of mathematical logic behind this
work. I’m interested in this
piece. It seems to hang between the
limbo of logic and dada.
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